My backup plan was already in place. In addition to Lan Xang, and Khmer, I also allied Oirats. So if Ming decided to attack me, it will instantly dismantle their tributary zone. Well, assuming my allies join that war, but AI usually joins defensive wars.
I also got Pegu for added protection, since it was ally of my ally, so fairly safe one.
Ming entered Golden Era in June 1493. I hope they don't survive it all.
I took expansion as second idea group. I'll need administrative and maybe humanist next, so my paper mana is going to be extremely pressured.
I started establishing tributaries in Southern Islands, and I got first taste of the Ming conflict, as Ming's tributary Malacca attacked my tributaries Palembang. I first sent my fleets, then even some troops to knock out Sulu out of the war, but it was like 10% participation.
Ming sent some insults my way, but didn't actually attack.
By the time second war with Japan was due, it was nearly unified, with just 5 daimyo under Ashikaga clan.
Order of battle, me:
- 32k inf, 8k cav, 2k art (42k total)
- 6 lights, 10 galleys, 13 transports (29 total)
- I told my vassal Yeren to stay out of it, so not counting their troops
Japan, its 5 daimyos, and Ryukyu:
- 36k inf, 5k cav (41k total)
- 13 lights, 14 galleys, 16 transports (43 total)
With mil tech advantage of 8 to 7.
Unfortunately while I was happily sieging Kyoto, Ming attacked. Oirats betrayed me, but Lan Xang, Khmer, and Pegu joined.
Order of battle, our side:
- 60k inf, 24k cav, 3k art (87k total)
- 4 heavies, 24 ligcht, 22 galleys, 31 transports (81 total)
Ming:
- 56k inf, 15k cav, 13k art (84k total)
- 1 heavy, 7 lights, 15 galleys, 23 transports (46 total)
Ming at 43 mandate suffers minor penalties, and they have tech 8 unlike my allies still at 7.
It's about even in theory, but there's pretty much no way my allies will effectively coordinate it.
I already achieved one objective and removed 323dev of Ming tributaries from their list, leaving them with just 422dev. Unfortunately by this patch, non-tributaries no longer cause mandate loss, but at least Ming will gain mandate more slowly.
Also Ming is currently being ruled by a 1/2/3 empress with petty (-0.05 monthly mandate), as a regent for a 0/0/3 boy. That's seriously miserable.
If I can quickly finish war in Japan and safely move my armies and fleets to Korea, I should be fine. I'd like to use transfer vassal to get remaining daimyos cheaply under me for half price - I don't think I ever used this ability.
I'm fine with a stalemate, or even minor concessions to Ming, next age is just a few years away, and they get some painful disaster chain.
Best case scenario is that Ming somehow fumbles so hard they lose their mandate, and I take Beijing in first war, but I'm not counting on that.
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