Montferrat: Part 14: 1599-1613: Monumental Exploits

I had a war with Castile coming, with extremely rare colonialism CB, that let me grab their colonies and colonial nations for cheap, and I got really close to containing them all to Europe, but warscore was just tiny bit lacking.

I had to demote Occitan, as too many accepted culture slots are taken by:

• Bedouin for Petra
• Castilian for Madrid monument
• Egyptian for Pyramids
• English for London monuments
• French for Paris monuments
• Greek for Parthenon

Bedouin of these is especially dumb, as it's such a shitty culture. The rest at least are somewhat significant.

I pressed the "request relative as heir" on Aragon to ask them to get my Palaiologos dynasty on their throne for 90 favors. This gives me 20 AE with every Catholic country, and there's a good chance they'll get hunting accident or whatnot, but it's a new button, so why not try it once.

I got Global Trade spawning in Pisa. The requirements (highest trade share in most valuable trade node) are such that if you don't get Global Trade spawning for you, then you're playing the game wrong.

England was getting wrecked by everyone so I force vassalized what was left. They're not getting London back, but a few years later I got them their cores from France and Scotland.

Anyway, let's get to the exploit I accidentally discovered. I asked Ayutthaya if I could just buy Bangkok, with monument already worth 1000 gold in it - and they sold the whole province, with one of the best monuments in game, for 780. Conquering provinces takes monuments down a level (so I'd need to rebuild it, pay 1000 + 10 years), but not any other change of ownership. Like Paradox forgot to update the charter trade company button to count monuments. Once fully upgraded it gives -10% AE, +15% government capacity, and like that isn't enough +1% yearly absolutism and +50% vassal force limit contribution. Insanity.

Oh wait, can I do more of that? They aren't actually that many monuments which are coastal, not religion-locked, and not in capital, but I also bought:

• Murud-Janjira Fort in Chaul from Bahmanis (just some naval stuff, but +1 naval tradition translates to more trade income) - just sold without any issues
• Bara Katra in Dhaka from Bengal - they wouldn't sell as they were threatened attitude, so I allied them, bought it, then broke the alliance with zero consequences

I also unsuccessfully tried to buy some from Majapahit (I had too many provinces nearby), Japan (they were too powerful), and Korea (it was their capital). If I knew about it before, I would have had all those monument provinces by now.

Age of Absolutism started, and I have no idea what's the meta at this point. I revoked some estate privileges, including the new one for +25 relations with all other Catholics. It's overpowered as hell early game, but at this point it doesn't really matter anyway. I have enough spare sword mana, that I guess I'll just spend that. It also increases +2.5 a year - +1 from high crownland, +0.5 from government reform, and +1 from that monument I bought from Ayutthaya and upgraded to tier 3.

Unfortunately there aren't any monuments that the much more desirable give max absolutism, so I'll have to revoke a lot of great privileges. I could then do Court and Country and grant them again, but that seems like such a hassle.

Right now it's possible to get (it's capped at 100):

• +65 base
• +5 great power
• +5 empire tier
• +5 max religious unity
• +10 max legitimacy
• +15 very high crownland
• +10 from two government reforms - Royal Decree and Political Absolutism, and they're both best picks unless you want a Parliament, which honestly isn't really worth it

So it's a total of 115, that's a budget of 15 to be spent on estate privileges, with no buffer for low legitimacy or low religious unity issues. Which is a shame as just mana privileges are 3 times -5, and Strong Duchies is -10. Going Court and Country would give me total estate privilege budget of 35. Alternatively some countries get extra max absolutism from ideas, government reforms, or mission rewards, so they need it less.

I was wondering why Religious Leagues weren't starting, and it turned out my code is messed up and they can start for every religion except Protestant. The previous time I played the Reformed league started which made sense, as there were some Protestant and Reformed electors, so I thought it was working. And now it's too late anyway, Saxony was the only Protestant elector and they got converted to Catholicism anyway, and by 1625 the whole league system expires. I saved Austria a lot of trouble here. Too bad, League Wars are always great fun.

I wish there was some mode that shows every country, except subjects get their overlord's color, and wastelands are colored too. Right now the only way to do that would be console-integrating subjects.

Also my vassal Leon setup New Leon in Florida, and is setting up another one in Columbia. That's the only way to get multiple CNs per colonial regions, and I'd get double the bonus if both are big enough (mostly another merchant, other bonuses don't matter all that much).

This is the weakest Reformation ever, and it's not even my doing, mostly HRE Catholics were really aggressive and destroyed two Centers of Reformation early. I guess I destroyed two more and I was Catholic Defender of the Faith all the time, so heretics couldn't attack back.

I think Catholic might be the strongest religion in the game now, but only if you actively engage in Pope game.

Montferrat: Part 13: 1581-1599: Monumental Expansion

I was planning to cycle between Castile, Mamluks, and France, but I noticed Aq Qoyunlu holds just a few provinces I need for mission that gives me permanent +25% manpower. And that manpower is really useful - for building monuments faster.

I eliminated the Mamluks, got another monument when I annexed Morocco, attacked Timbuktu for yet another monument.

Then it was time for a big war - take Paris and London and 4 new monuments. I didn't take anything more, as I'm already tempting coalition a bit. There's a lot of untruced Sunni countries out there, but what's the worst that could happen? If I spend some time removing all the tiny African and Middle Eastern Sunnis, this would actually help me a lot. In a way it's a bit my fault, if I didn't steal so many maps, they wouldn't be getting any AE on me. So far I didn't even have an opportunity to use the guarantee-unguarantee exploit for free truces.

Right now I'm mostly interested in how stupid I can get my monument bonuses stack, and getting to press the Roman Empire button.

There are five tier-3 monuments, and the other monuments except the London, Paris, and Timbuktu ones I just got are tier 2 and most of them in process of being upgraded.

Monument bonuses I already got:

• Administrative Efficiency: 0.05
• Advisor Costs: -0.3
• Autonomy: -0.025
• Average Monarch Lifespan: 0.05
• Caravan Power: 0.2
• Clergy Loyalty Equilibrium: 0.25
• Diplomatic Relations: 1
• Diplomatic Reputation: 3
• Envoy Travel Time: -0.33
• Fabricate Claims Cost: -0.2
• Governing Capacity Modifier: 0.05
• Governing Capacity: 100
• Idea Cost: -0.05
• Income from Vassals: 0.1
• Liberty Desire in Subjects: -10
• Missionaries: 1
• Missionary Strength vs Heretics: 0.03
• Monthly Splendor: 2
• Papal Influence: 2.0
• Prestige Decay: -0.01
• Prestige: 2.5
• Reform Progress Growth: 0.35
• Resistance to Reformation: 0.3
• Tariffs: 0.1
• Tolerance of Heretics: 0.5
• Tolerance of the True Faith: 1.0
• Trade Efficiency: 0.05
• Treasure Fleet income: 0.1
• War Score Cost vs Other Religions: -0.15

It about double once I finish upgrading just the monuments I have. And the best monuments are in South-East Asia, so I guess I could take a trip there.

Overall I'm not hating the monuments mechanic, even if another round of nerfs would help. It's a decent mid-game goal, so you can do monument game even if you don't go for world conquest.

Before, Paradox added a lot of silly late game mechanics like furnaces, revolutions etc. that I never got to. This one is much more relevant.

Oh and I maxed out innovativeness already without doing anything special about it. It's a lot easier in recent patches as they doubled innovativeness gain. The whole "take innovative ideas first for bigger bonus" concept still feels silly to me - other groups are way stronger, and locking yourself out of whole idea group to get max innovativeness twenty years earlier feels silly.

Roman Empire is going global, I'm racing Castile for Indian Ocean islands, and I diplovassalized Warsangali and allied Ethiopia for some East African positioning.

The main goal are of course monuments. Especially two overpowered monuments, one in Pegu, and one in Ayutthaya - the rest there are mostly religion-locked. There's also decent trade bonuses monuments in Persia and Lisbon that are on my list.

In-game ledger is absolute trash for monument game, they put massive pictures, and zero information there, really their worst ledger page. I'm working of a list generated by a script.

Montferrat: Part 12: 1568-1581: Monument Spamming

I gave Roman Mexico another pile of uncored land. I've been sending them piles of money all the time as well, they might not recover stability before 1600s.

I got into a "AE is just a number" fight with Castile to get their monument slot as it provides governing capacity - something I lack the most. After that I released Leon for low-AE expansion, and allied the Pope again.

I'm forced to accept some stupid cultures for the monuments. Petra requires me to accept Bedouin. Madrid Palace requires me to accept the Castilian. Pyramids require Egyptian. There are French and English culture monuments on my way. I thought this is a total non-issue as spending one or two culture slots on that is not a big deal, but they really add up now, and it's a hassle. Fortunately new slots keep coming with diplomatic tech, but I had to un-accept Bulgarian and Serbian, and converted them all to my main Piedmontese culture just to free some slots. I might un-accept Occitan as well.

To be fair most of these cultures are big enough that I don't mind, but shitty Bedouin culture without one good province for Petra? Ugh. But Petra is totally great - at max tier it's +2 diplomatic reputation, +1 diplomatic relations, -20% cost to fabricate claims, -33% envoy travel time (which is pretty much like free diplomat once you have a global empire).

I had a quick crusade against the Mamluks, taking their Red Sea coastline, and the rest of Anatolia. Then took some land from France, including their Canadian colonies, just in time to prevent them from establishing a colonial nation and getting exclusive rights to Canada from the Pope.

It looks like it will be Castile, Mamluk, France, rotation, and because I can call allies to every single war with ease, that's not really going to be a problem.

I'm not sure why HRE Leagues didn't trigger yet. There's one Protestant elector who should have decent chance my now.

The most interesting thing about this campaign is testing monuments. These are current bonuses I have, not including wrong religion bonuses:

• Administrative Efficiency: 0.05 (Alhambra 3)
• Advisor Costs: -0.25 (Parthenon 1, Pyramid of Cheops 1, Santa Maria del Fiore 2)
• Clergy Loyalty Equilibrium: 0.05 (Pyramid of Cheops 1)
• Diplomatic Reputation: +2 (Alhambra 3, Petra 2)
• Envoy Travel Time: -0.25 (Petra 2)
• Fabricate claims cost: -0.1 (Petra 2)
• Global autonomy: -0.01 (El Escorial 1)
• Global tariffs: 0.05 (El Escorial 1)
• Income from Vassals: 0.1 (Alhambra 3)
• Liberty Desire in Subjects: -10 (Alhambra 3)
• Missionary Strength vs Heretics: 0.02 (Holy City of Jerusalem 2)
• Monthly Splendor: 1.5 (Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 1, Santa Maria del Fiore 2)
• Papal Influence: 0.5 (Duomo di Milano 1)
• Prestige Decay: -0.01 (Santa Maria del Fiore 2)
• Prestige: 1.25 (Doge's Palace 2, Holy City of Jerusalem 2, Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 1, Royal Palace of Caserta 1)
• Reform Progress Growth: 0.25 (Doge's Palace 2, Royal Palace of Caserta 1)
• Resistance to Reformation: 0.15 (Duomo di Milano 1)
• Tolerance of Heretics: 0.25 (Hagia Sophia 1)
• Tolerance of the True Faith: 0.25 (Hagia Sophia 1)
• Treasure Fleet income: 0.05 (El Escorial 1)
• War Score Cost vs Other Religions: -0.1 (Malta Forts 2)

That is seriously a stupid list. With my income of 400 a month (at peace time 300 pure profit), I can start 7 tier-3 upgrades in a decade. I haven't even been focusing on monuments particularly much - Morocco still exists as a vassal (they have decent monument for trade), Paris and London have 4 more monuments I could take, and so on. By 1650 those bonuses are going to be completely crazy - going tier 2 to tier 3 about doubles the benefits.

This is after massive nerfs from the first monument release.

Oh and conquest of Mecca nets me +1 missionary, +1 tolerance of true faith, and +0.5 yearly prestige as well.

For ideas so far: diplomatic, administrative, expansion, trade.

Just a usual day in Roman Mexico. Once they started stabilizing I annexed half of the remaining natives, as coalition prevention measure. Rebellion size scales to owner country, so they're very small compared to what I'd be getting, so my troops can crush them with ease.

AI is being really stupid here, they full state things before they deal with OE and stability, so they've been at -3 stab and massive OE for all that time - by now it could all be territorial cores, with all their issues fixed.

Roman Empire going global, by far the strongest colonial power without even exploration ideas. Was I massively overvaluing exploration?

I want to repeat the same thing in Peru, and I shouldn't have coring range (Brazil is Castile's exclusive, La Plata is Portugal's exclusive), but apparently Roman Mexico gives me colonial range to Peru and California.

Which is weird, as according to travel time, colonist goes around (out of reach) tip of South America, not through Mexico. Oh well, I'll deal with it in due time, currently working on Louisiana and Canada CNs to add to by Mexico, Colombia, West Indies, and Romerica.

Meanwhile I've been expanding in Africa to get access to Asian monuments. Timbuktu also has tech cost discount monument very deep inland, I guess I could grab that. Other African monuments all seem to be religion-locked.

Montferrat: Part 11: 1549-1568: Roman Mexico

I got some serious AE in the Great Crusade, but I had vassal core return CBs on France, Castile, and Mamluks, so for a while I could expand while letting AE tick down.

I got all the Gascony's cores on France, took one province to release Orleans, and diplovassalized OPM leftovers of Brittany. Then I had a quick core return only fight with Castile.

There are more important things to do, like monuments! I got Alhambra upgraded to tier 3, spending a lot of money and manpower to speed it up. Total upgrade const is 8500 and 70 years, but you can add 10k manpower or 250 gold for every 2 year speedup, so going from tier 0 to 3 costs:

• 8500 gold + 70 years
• 8500 gold + 350k manpower + no time
• 17250 gold + no time

Or some combination of them.

For low priority monuments - which is almost all of them - I'd just use the slow build option, unless my manpower is near the cap. Except for Alhambra, which got absolute priority, the rest of the monuments (and arguably a few others like Bagan Temples for +2 missionaries, Kanbawzathadi Palace for +2 diplo relations, or Krakow Cloth Hall for +2 merchants) can wait - I start tier 1 everything, then tier 2 everything. Once I finish all tier 2 upgrades and manufactories, I guess I'll upgrade them to tier 3.

I got into another fight with the Mamluks, just for Syria's cores, and Poland got curia controller and declared a new crusade on the Mamluks. Well, they could have done it a few month earlier. Oh well, it lasts a while. I took Mecca for +1 missionary - this is one of the few modifiers which they didn't turn into a monument.

I was trying to rush as many colonial nations as I can before someone else does, and I get papal ban. That meant sending a lot of troops to conquer Mexico. Unfortunately at the same time my French truce expired, and I had to attack them for vassal cores, but I couldn't actually do two wars so far away from each other. It's far too exhausting to keep flipping back and forth, so I had to leave French wars to my allies.

As I couldn't really fight the French, I instead went after Portugal, and took over their colonial nation on Caribbean. The Pope still bans me from colonizing, it, but there are no penalties for taking it by forces.

From France I took vassal cores and setup Burgundy as new vassal for the next war. I also want to take Paris and London for all their monuments (2 each!), but that might need to wait.

It's like Roman conquest of Gaul all over. I'm more than halfway there to Restore Roman Empire button, and I don't think I ever actually bothered, so I guess it's this campaign.

Subject Overextension is just a number. I handed over my Roman Mexico 340dev (only 28 cored) and there's about 200dev more to handover. I have 2 CNs so far, but I'll have 2 more soon (Caribbean just wait for cores, and East Coast only waits for last colony). I guess I can just seize French Canada and Castilian Brazil at my convenience.

Recent patches introduced different colony types etc. but for now I've been mostly spending tons of resources for some pretty colors on the map. Which is very historically accurate.

Montferrat: Part 10: 1541-1549: The Great Crusade

I really didn't want to fight Castile and Mamluks at the same time, as both their navies were very strong, and could prevent me from moving my troops around. Removing straits from the game really drastically improves me like that - all those considerations would be completely missing in vanilla with magical bridges everywhere.

So I attacked Mantua, who was allied with Castile, Pope, and some HRE minors. The main goal was to force Castile to break their alliance with the Mamluks - and secondarily:

• take Alhambra monument slot, even if it costs 2x AE, whatever
• remove Dithmarschen and Munich Reformed centers of reformation
• convert some HRE minors to Catholicism
• remove Mantua from the map
• get some gold from everyone

One issue with this is that I had very limited time until Pope's crusade expired, and then I'd lose Holy War CB on the Mamluks.

I removed 2 of 3 Reformed centers of reformation, somehow only 1 of 3 Protestant center was left, Anglicans and Hussites never spawned theirs, so it was just 2 out of possible 8. And England was pretty wrecked between Catholic France and Catholic Scotland. It's overall pretty good Catholic showing.

Overall it went really well. Favors are ticking up like crazy so every war I have multiple allies backing me.

Finally with preparations out of the way and brief peace to get my troops back home, The Great Montferratian Crusade against Mamluks could begin, with less than a year left before CB expired.

I had 35% war score cost vs other religions (10% from being max harsh on council of Trent; 25% from age ability) and I intended to obliterate the infidels. Coalition is after all just a number.

Tunis - full annex, finally being able to take revenge for a century of coastal raids (literally had no CB until that time). Morocco - vassalize, as I couldn't core all those non-coastal provinces in any reasonable way. Mamluks - I really wanted to 100% take land, but they army was never properly broken, coalition would be really annoying, and I really just needed their monument places and coastlines for now. By our next war Sunnis will forget about the AE, and Mamluks won't be able to afford that kind of army.

After the war I restored Eastern Roman Empire, using unique Montferrat decision.

Unfortunately my Kosovo gold mine got depleted, but I'm past the point where that matters much.

Well, time to turn around and deal with France, as our truce just expired, and Gascony needs their clay back.

It's my first time playing with monuments, so here's what I have so far:

• Athens (Parthenon) - tier 1 - -10% advisor cost
• Constantinople (Hagia Sophia) - tier 1 - +0.25 tolerance of true faith and heretics
• Florence (Santa Maria del Fiore) - tier 2 - prestige decay -1%, monthly splendor +1, advisor cost -10%
• Granada (Alhambra) - tier 1 - +10% income from vassals, -5% subject liberty desire
• Mentese (Mausoleum of Helicarnassus) - tier 1 - +0.25 yearly prestige, +0.5 monthly splendor
• Milan (Duomo di Milano) - tier 1 - +0.5 pope mana, +15% resistance to reformation
• Venice (Doge's Palace) - tier 1 - +10% reform progress growth

Need some preconditions first:

• Jerusalem (Holy City of Jerusalem) - already tier 1 but I need to convert it to true faith for bonuses to start working
• Cairo (Pyramids of Cheops) - need to statify and accept Egyptian, then build them

Those bonuses are really starting to add up. For example Florence, Athens, and Cairo together at tier 3 would give 55% advisor cost discount. Malta would be 15% warscore cost vs different religions, Granada 5% admin efficiency and so on.

There are good numbers but Poland/Lithuania mostly kept losing and costing me warscore

This work of art is called "Overextension is just a number". The few coastal Mediterranean provinces I don't control mostly belong to my allies Aragon and Poland/Lithuania.

It's mostly poor clay, but it feels like I doubled my size on the map in this one war.

Castile, France, and Mamluks are all my targets, so I'm heading towards fairly Roman Empire borders.

Montferrat: Part 09: 1530-1541: Defending Scotland

I took a few easy years, started a few new great projects, integrated some subjects, diplovassalized a few more (Circassia, Theodoro).

A big war I started war for whatever was left of Venice, defended by France. France had nearly as many troops as me, and they were stronger. Fortunately I could count on my allies to overwhelm them with numbers.

During that was my Defender of the Faith backfired and I was called in to defend Catholic Scotland from Anglican England. My Defender of the Faith also fell from tier 5 to tier 4.

Scotland was dragging this damn war forever, even after I sunk whole English and allied navy, killed every last of their soldiers, and had every province under siege, they still would keep going just to spite the damn English.

After the war I finally was able to release Gascony as a vassal, with a lot of French cores.

I tried to diplovassalize Crimea, but Poland attacked them first, calling me into their war. Fine.

My truce with Castile and the Mamluks is almost gone, and it would be so much more convenient if Poland didn't call me into their stupid war.

Scotland is the biggest winner of the decade. Naples is slowly getting provinces from Aragon, another 15 years and they will have all their Aragonese cores back. Still need to get some from Castile.

Colonial race started. I have one province in Guyana I took from France (there's almost no AE for that), and 2 colonies being built in the Caribbean.

Stupid Pope decided that Portugal built CN in Caribbean first, so if I create any new colonies there, that means basically zero papal influence going forward.

Castile is about to finish Brazil CN, they'll get regional claim too. I guess I should conquer Mexico or something before all the clay is claimed.

They have 3 colonists each and a big headstart, while I only have 1 so far.

Montferrat: Part 08: 1524-1530: Aragonese War of Independence

The hardest wars are ones where AI is the warleader. The fight was against Castile, Mamluks, Mantua, and Florence.

Mantua, Florence, and Castilian holdings in Italy were easy pickings. Unfortunately Mamluks and Castile were both much stronger than me on the seas, so I couldn't do much about Mamluk attacks on Anatolia and Sicily. I tried to do some naval warfare, but I ended up losing almost all of my war fleet. No big deal, as I was about to unlock next tier of ships anyway, so they'd be all useless. I only had 1 Barque and 5 Galleys left after the war, which I all sold to Aragon, and built new navy from scratch.

During the war I got just over 1000dev and made myself emperor. I also finished convincing Candar to become my vassals while the war was going on, but really they just offered more free warscore for the Mamluks, so maybe it was a bad timing.

Aragon was dragging it on for far longer than they should - and in the peace deal they have me 2 provinces which were Naples cores I didn't want (as they would have no AE discount as wrong CB was used), as well as Gibraltar. I asked for all of Grenada territory as I wanted Alhambra as soon as possible, and Gibraltar was 4dev there, so I guess they didn't completely ignore me. Oh well.

While the war was going on, I took expansion ideas, and sneaked a single ship into the Atlantic to help with map stealing. I've been stealing maps like crazy from England, France, Castile, and Portugal. It's nice to have so many diplomats. I have 7 - 2 base, 1 from government rank, 2 from diplomatic ideas, 1 from policy, 1 from curia controller. After the war ended I took expansion (without exploration) ideas, and started colonizing basing it all on stolen maps, starting with the Caribbean.

Council of Trent triggered while I was curia controller, so I ignored all the cardinals voting, and took all the harsh positions:

• +2% missionary strength vs heretics
• +30% institution spread in true faith provinces
• +10% manpower in true faith provinces
• -10% warscore cost vs other religions
• at cost of -40 total opinion from Protestants and Reformed

Which is somewhat embarrassing as my ally Switzerland went Reformed, but they'll get over it.

I'm not sure why there's even any voting, conciliatory positions are all terrible.

After the war ended I managed to stack my diplomatic bonuses so high I diplovassalized 71dev Florence.

Apparently it's now also possible to trade favors for return core, so I just politely asked Aragon to return a province to Naples, and they did it. The cost is really steep, but it's free clay.

Portugal managed to be Great Power as its the first to embrace Colonialism. Nobody has a single colonial nation yet, so I didn't join too late.

Breaking the Castile/Aragon PU is a huge change in European affairs, even if the maps look just like they did before. I'd like to expand into Mamluk lands, but without vanilla's magic bridges that really needs a serious navy and they're allied to Castile, so I'd be fighting two very strong navies. So maybe just beat up France or Aztec natives instead?